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I Need Feminism

Fri Mar 7, 2014, 3:19 PM

I need feminism because
It’s acceptable to call me a slut.
I need feminism because
It’s okay for a guy to slap my butt.
I need feminism because
It’s my own fault if a man rapes me.
I need feminism because
I should look good for men to see.
I need feminism because
People think it means ‘anti-man’.
I need feminism because
I can’t do things that men can.
I need feminism because
Girls think it’s cool to shame each other.
I need feminism because
The world has higher hopes for my brother.
I need feminism because
My femininity makes me ‘weak’.
I need feminism because
If I act masculine I’m a ‘freak’.
I need feminism because
My boobs are my ‘best quality’.
I need feminism because
I believe in equality.



It’s a rare enough occasion when a literary deviant posts a poem that elicits over 2,000 comments for that feat to be acknowledged and celebrated. CorporateRockWhore recently graced the deviantART community with her work, I Need Feminism which generated a firestorm of opinion, both positive and negative. By serendipitous happenstance, her poem was published just as depthRADIUS was releasing our Coven article about the American Horror Story TV show, which also blew up a gale force of discussion, mostly centering on current perceptions and feelings about “feminism”.

We invited Ellie (a.k.a. CorporateRockWhore) to share with the community a little about the genesis of her poem and her feelings about the overwhelming response, positive and negative, it has received.  In her comments, published below, she addresses several misperceptions about her “feminist” intents, including the toxic notion (pervasive amongst so many men) that feminism is not so much about equal access and opportunity for both genders, but much more about female supremacism and the crushing of the male spirit.

Follow Up

Recently, as some of you may know, I wrote and posted a poem entitled I Need Feminism. This was inspired and prompted by a multitude of different factors, from things I’ve experienced myself to things that I have some across on the internet. For example, one of the lines in the poem is:

It’s okay for a guy to slap my butt.

Not particularly eloquent, I know, but it is based on several experiences that I have had; men, usually older than myself, copping a feel and then, when I protested, finding it funny. Of course, not all guys are like this, but some (a small, small amount) are and, just as equally, some women support it too (a few times I’ve complained to fellow female friends about it happening and a few of them acted as though I should have felt flattered). Another example is this line:

I can’t do things that men can.

Here I’m talking about things in a sort of socially justifiable kind of way. One instance of this could be the idea that it’s ‘cool’ if a man has sex with lots of different women, but when a woman has sex with lots of different men she is shamed for it. Personally, I don’t think either gender should get shamed for that sort of thing—the amount of people you have slept with doesn’t make you any better or any worse a person.

I spend a lot of my time on the internet, probably more than is healthy, and it is from the internet that I got into the concept of feminism. I’d see a post on websites such as Tumblr of instances of sexism that people (both male and female) have encountered and it made me angry, extremely angry. A person shouldn’t be defined by their gender or race or religion or sexuality; they should be defined by whether they’re a nice person or not. Simple. Equally, I have found examples of sexism taking place on the internet. It is all of the above (and a bit more) that inspired me to write I Need Feminism.

by Dolk Lundgren

Nothing could have prepared me for the reaction that it got. Honestly, I never expected it to be seen by so many people and to generate such diverse, strong opinions out of people. Nor did I expect it to cause so many arguments between commenters. I think it’s great, that something I wrote got people talking and brought up the issue; as an aspiring writer, that’s the best thing that I can hope for. I must admit, though, that it did get a bit scary with some of the more aggressive comments—I’d never set out to infuriate or offend anyone.

When someone comments on something of mine, I only think that it’s fair for me to respond. After all, they took the time out of their day to talk to me, so why shouldn’t I grant them the same courtesy? This is how I found myself proactively engaged in both conversations and arguments with the readers of the piece. Also, when I feel strongly about something, I’m always happy to talk about it and hear other people’s opinions.

The comments ranged from in-depth arguments and analysis to people complimenting the piece, from people agreeing to people asking me questions about it, from “you’re my hero” to “slit your wrists”. I found each comment interesting and uplifting, even if they weren’t always intended to be as such. The one thing that came up time and time again throughout the ~2,900+ comments was the idea that feminism is anti-man. I would like to address that here.

Let’s take a look at the Wikipedia definition of Feminism

Feminism is a collection of movements and ideologies aimed at defining, establishing, and defending equal political, economic, and social rights for women. This includes seeking to establish equal opportunities for women in education and employment. A feminist advocates or supports the rights and equality of women.

It is not about women being better than men, it is not about taking rights away from men and it is not about beating men down; it’s about bringing us all up to the same level. There are plenty of male feminists too – Matt Damon, Joss Whedon, Richard Branson and Prince Harry, to name but a few that you may know. In a similar vein, it is not the idea that all men are evil. It’s the idea that some people (both male and female) are sexist and that isn’t cool.

But, Ellie, why don’t you back equalism?

I hear you cry. Simple answer: I do.

I had an influx of comments saying that I should be backing things like egalitarianism, not feminism. I, personally, back both. Egalitarianism aims for complete equality, right? And then feminism aims for complete equality for women; you can’t achieve egalitarianism aims without also achieving feminist aims too. If you look at equality as a fight, then feminism is a faction of the army. I support equality for all, regardless of gender, race, religion, sexual orientation, sexual identity or any other factor that isn’t based around whether the person is nice or not. I can be a feminist and still back other movements too.

I’m going to wrap up with this, my own personal view on what feminism means. Feminism is an idea, a concept and it is not tangible – it is not concrete. Feminism means different things to different people. To some it may be used as an excuse to promote anti-male and female-supremacy ideas, but to many it is used to genuinely promote equality. Feminism, to me, means equality, means loving myself, means respecting women as you would men. Feminism isn’t evil or dangerous. Well, no more so than any other idea is.



Do you find it ironic or maddening when people with unquestioned social and economic advantages feel threatened by a disadvantaged group demanding equal status in society?  If this is “feminist” is it really all that radical or just common sensible?  Is “feminism” simply synonymous with “pro-fairness?”  This seems to be what you are saying.


I find it slightly annoying but I think I understand why some people might feel threatened. In the case of feminism I can see it, seeing as it gets a lot of negative press. I'm not going to deny that there are some radical feminists out there, but it's important to bear in mind that there some 'sane' feminists too. To me, feminism does mean “pro-fairness”; it's about equality/fairness between the genders. At least, that's how I interpret it. It means different things to different people, I think.


Would you agree that “feminism” has evolved away from an organized political movement for most women, and become more of a personal code of rules for self-respect and self-worth?  Is this a good or bad thing?


I think that, in most areas, it has moved away from being an organised political movement. I'm not a member of any feminist groups, but I see it as a mindset or, as you put it, a personal code. I think this is a really positive thing because it makes feminism much more accessible for everyone.


Do you think you’ll ever lose your need for feminism in your lifetime, or will your need always approximate your assessment of gender inequality in the world?


I think I will always need feminism, or the ideals behind it at least. Saying that though, I'm only seventeen; there is plenty of time left for the need to deplete over my lifespan.


For The Reader

  1. What does feminism mean today? Is it authentic to its original intent or has it transformed into something for a new generation?
  2. Do you find a person having solid feminist convictions to be a positive, empowering, attractive personality trait, or is it a politically and/or socially polarizing?
  3. When does our obsession with the female body cross over from being an appreciation of physical beauty to objectification?
  4. Does objectification deny the fact that women are human beings who are sexual, but who are also thinking, creative, artistic, loving and in need of being loved?
  5. Is objectifying the female human body a violation of the principles of feminism or does it embrace them?
  6. If a woman thinks it’s OK for men to comment on women’s bodies, or make sexual suggestions in public, or touch a woman they don’t really know, is she just reconciling herself to the reality of male-female relations or is she enabling bad behavior that harms men as much as women?
  7. Do you think poems and other personal statements like “I Need Feminism” are bridges of hope for a more equal future, or just provocations meant to stir the pot?
  8. Do you think there is too much female focused nude subject matter on deviantART or is it a non-issue for you?  How much do you think your gender or sexual preferences might influence your answer?

It’s a rare enough occasion when a literary deviant posts a poem that elicits over 2,000 comments for that feat to be acknowledged and celebrated. CorporateRockWhore recently graced the deviantART community with her work, I Need Feminism which generated a firestorm of opinion, both positive and negative.  By serendipitous happenstance, her poem was published just as depthRADIUS was releasing our Coven article about the American Horror Story TV show, which also blew up a gale force of discussion, mostly centering on current perceptions and feelings about “feminism”.

Writers: CorporateRockWhore, techgnotic
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ABurlacu Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2014
American "feminism" is outmoded and usually ignored by the rest of the world.
I am a professional musician,  a soprano, and I am in European, Commonwealth,
and Eastern european countries most of the time.
I can assure you that women 
are not the subject of ....
......the negativity in your assertions, of if they are, the attractive

aspects of the feminine, work to our gender's advantage, and never to our disadvantage.

If you believe that you have ever been demeaned by a man, because of being 
a woman, you should consider certain biological imperatives,
or just hang around wiser and more accomplished women
more than you do now... choose women who are good role models and you will see

what nonsense are most of the assertions of American Feminists.
Veroom Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
So techgnotic, do you know if there's going to be any heavily advertised hot topic announcements on deviantART to celebrate International Men's Day today?
NessyWasHere Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2014
All this equality war has made me... Moneysexual e_e
Evil-Black-Fox Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2014
The real deal on "HeForShe"
Soarm Featured By Owner Oct 1, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I don't need feminism...
Ametris Featured By Owner Sep 24, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
In terms of objectifying, it is a very important practice for medical doctors to not see their patients' bodies as people, but as objects, so they can do what they need to without the emotion getting in the way - or changing their logic-made decisions. In terms of objectifying for art, we can realise (I hope) that a person can be both an object of artistic expression and a thinking individual. However, this should be therefore all people, not just some, regardless of gender. In terms of making comments or sexual suggestions in public, it depends on culture and country. In places of free speech, where the comments themselves are not threatening, even rude comments are not automatically anything more than rude comments by stint of them being directed toward a woman. In countries where what one says in public is more censored, then of course do follow the law. Whether it is okay to be touching a person one doesn't know does in fact entirely depend on the culture. In Japan, even casual touch can be rude - and startle a person greatly. I have known someone who described taking strangers' shoulders to shift them out of their way as being less rude than calling out in their nation of birth. I do find there is a bit much female nude focus on this website, being myself a gay man I would like to see it a bit more even. I have no problems with nude, or with bodies as art, but I would like to find more men as art. :3 In terms of what makes feminism, it's become a bit of a tough subject for me. I know some very nice women who have been bullied by feminists because being trans women apparently means they are 'not women enough.' They are some of the most effeminate women I know. I have also known feminists who say all people who identify as female are female enough. I notice more a lack of internal cohesion about the term and who uses it. So, whether I consider their feminism to be positive and empowering depends more on which form they have and how they use it, rather than if they use it. My goodness this is a long comment. Did I answer them all?
icecreamgirl6 Featured By Owner Sep 26, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
Thank you so much i feel like a big weight was lifted off of me .
AyadER Featured By Owner Sep 23, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Vampress13 Featured By Owner Sep 3, 2014
It is an extremely rare occasion that I favorite a journal entry. This is brilliant.
GrumpyOldRossco Featured By Owner Oct 1, 2014
You don't read much, because this was terrible
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